Geofencing for free
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I very much doubt that Tado will change their stance on this. They have infrastructure to support this feature and it must be paid for. Previously, theyincluded it up to V3 but from V3+ onwards, it's been a subscription
I would take this as a reminder to fully understand what you're getting before you buy a product
Personally, I think Tado as a subscription service would be better for the company and the customer
- No large up-front hardware purchase costs
- Fully supported hardware and apps
- Regular revenue stream for Tado to provide a better level of support and invest in the technology
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Your absolutely right that I should have done more research before getting Tado. I saw the Google special deal for tado and jumped. However, the more I use tado without subscription the more I realize it's not really a smart thermostat and I could get almost all the function from a cheap Honeywell scheduler. Little things that made nest smart are just missing. Like nest learns how long it takes your house to come up to temperature and then bring the boiler on early to have the house at the set temp at the set time. I'm not impressed with the base features and shouldn't have to take a subscription to get even the basic smart features.
I've figured out how to setup a 24vac transformer and relay to be able to use US Nest with my EU boiler. Think that the path I'll take next.0 -
One more bit of feed back as I think your a Tado product manager (I don't believe a real customer would advocate for a subscription to basic features).
Gathering users location data to drive geofence features is a data goldmine. If Tado can't monetise that to more than cover the infrastructure costs, then they sadly don't have a future in the smart home business.-1 -
I feel a bit sorry for the Nest users. They get sucked in with the 50% discount and enter the world of Tado. Doubly so if they get the immature Tado X.
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@CharlieWW I can assure you I do not work for Tado!
What I'm advocating is a full subscription service instead of having to spend hundreds of £ upfront. I personally think a subscription business model will work better for both sides.
Right now, I don't believe that Tado has the required cashflow to fully develop and support their product. You can see this from the complaints about delays contacting support and the lack of development. There have been feature requests open for years with no progress
e.g. multi-home support, per-user geofencing, per-user access levels …
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Whats wrong with manual Home/Away, just one click in the app
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@CharlieWW We made a leap of faith over three years ago. Took three months to figure out what worked well for us.
Geo-fencing is one-click 'away' or 'home' manually. We have used automatic for the past 12 months, it doesn't forget when we leave home. It's a comfort thing too, with settings to pre-heat the home ready for arrival.
Monthly gas consumption copared to 2018-21:
Annual gas consumption:
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Having to manually switch on and off with a family of 5 isn't practical. What is worse is that Tado is capable of automatically doing it for me, the smart thing a smart thermostat should do. It's what every smart thermostat does but Tado want me to pay a subscription for any smart features. As I said before I could by a cheap Honeywell scheduler and get the same functionality as Tado without subscription.
I think there is a place for a subscription for really advanced smart features, that have a high backend infrastructure cost to Tado, however auto geofencing is a basic and very much standard feature on smart thermostats. I feel Tado are taking the p#ss demanding a subscription for that feature. I feel I'm probably not the only one and it will hurt Tado sales. They have a great opportunity with Nest pulling out of the EU market but will squander it if they stick with this poorly thought out subscription model.0
