I created a "scene" in the Homekit Home app that turns off each zone. Then I created a Siri shortcut to run that scene. When it runs, it turns off all the zones.
Then, In IFTT, I created a Button Widget that triggers the tado "Return to tado Auto mode". Using the IFTT app on iOS, you can add that as a widget.
So, tap the Siry "Heating Off" button when we leave and then tap the IFTT "Heating On" button when we're heading home.
What happens if you turn off the Bridge for many days or so? Not useful for winter in very cold countries cos of frost protection but would it not work as a home/away switch for most of us?
I agree. I've just put in a Tado system on my Rayburn 480K. My Rayburn takes 7 to 8 hours to warm the house up from a few days of cooling down. I also do a fair bit of travelling and I cannot see how Geofencing can decide if I'm coming home, or just going to another in-between stop. A manual button (in fact the existing one modified!) just needs to stay on screen and toggle between switch to home and switch to away. A button to switch it on manually would maintain comfort levels, and we would be able to save heating oil by switching back to away mode a few hours (perhaps even half a day) before leaving! It would also mean that I wouldn't have to adjust the temperatures of all three zones in my house each time I go out and come back again.
Programming this would be trivial, so I cannot see why there are so many arguments on this thread about its implementation.
It is a total pain, and if I fall under a bus my partner will have no idea how the central heating works, but I have now got IFTTT applets to lower the temperature for the house, and to restore it to auto on demand. It didn't seem to be working because, I suspect, the action is only triggered when a threshold is passed, not when the system is already in a zone (e.g. above 19C). Could be wrong about that.
thank you @ttl0 🤩 got it working!
"So the further away from home you are, the lower it will set the set point, as you get closer to home it will gradually increase setpoint, with the heating kicking in if needed. Then when you get within your "home zone" it switches fully to your scheduled set point."
Can somebody confirm if this is exactly how Auto-assist works in the v3 version? I.e. step-increases as you get closer and step-decreases as you get further.
Or is it an automated version of "do you want to switch to xxx mode", simply bypassing the notification on app-enabled devices?
If it's the former I think that's actually worth £25 a year.
@ldoodle Yep, this is exactly how it works if you pay the subscription.
Do we have any control over the distances of Eco, Balance and Comfort?
Both my wife and I work about 11 miles from our house; on Eco setting it wants to heat to 17 and this time of year means heat will be called for!!
Air Comfort is showing outside temps as 8 degrees C:
Downstairs zones are reporting 17.8 and 18, bedrooms and bathrooms are reporting 15. With Auto Assist in Eco mode all of upstairs zones would call for heat!
@ldoodle I don't believe so. Maybe Tado can adjust something on their side to make your "Eco" mode, even more "Eco" for you, but not quite "Off", to let the temp drop to something like 12ºC for you, it would obviously be colder upon your arrival then though.
Other than that, your main option is to disable the "Preheat before arrival" option.
Is there such a thing as a Smart Switch which is battery powered and just makes or breaks? If there is, putting it in line between the Tado boiler control thermostat and the boiler would permit control for home and away? If I understand the tado system well enough, everything would continue to operate when the smart switch is off but the boiler wound not fire?
I have done a fair bit of searching but am not expert enough to evaluate the switches.
@dougie175 Many thanks for prompt reply. My Tado boiler control stat only has 2 wires and I had assumed therefore that it just makes a connection between those 2 to start the boiler not power the boiler. I, for example , have the boiler stat on frost protection permanently and let other devices call for heat . So by breaking the circuit through the smart switch would we not just be replicating the only function of the boiler stat?
The reason I thought in this direction was an earlier post, I think by @Vertigo who said that occasionally he took the boiler stat off the wall to mimic 'away' mode.
@Edr that's a great point. I'm a privacy professional and am familiar with the GDPR and the processes for raising such concerns with privacy authorities.
I've just sent a request to Tado° to get their official statement on how this design is compliant with the GDPR. I will compare that to the text of the GDPR, and unless I'm convinced that they've actually got a valid justification/ balance, I will file a formal complaint with my national Data Protection Authority (Spain).
It would get subrogated over to the German DPA for the land in which Tado° is established (Bavaria, the Bayern LDA, BayLDA). It wouldn't hurt to get others to pile on, if we can work up a reasonable case that Tado°'s current design violates GDPR principles.
If indeed it is inadequate under the GDPR to require location services for such a basic function, Tado° will have to do the obvious and simple thing - give us the manual switch that many users are asking for. That's MUCH easier and cheaper for them than going through contortions to "show" "compliance" for non-compliant behavior.
So, step by step; let's see what Tado°'s reply to my request is.
Hi @dougie175 No worries at all - the existing location-based functions need not change. The non-compliance would be forcing people who DON'T want to use location based services to do so, in order to receive basic functionality from a thermostat. We only want to force Tado° to ALSO give us the manual Home/Away setting.
@dougie175 there is absolutely no need to send GPS coordinates of every household member to tado, even for geolocation / dumb assist service to work. At most what is needed is the phone sending home/away status or possibly obfuscated distance or direction or ETA data. They do not need GPS coordinates at all. This information shouldnt be accessible to other family members either; when tado forces my housekeeper or babysitter to install tado app in order not to freeze in my house, I have no right to see their GPS location at any time, or vice versa. The tado API provides every user with that info nonetheless. Its completely unacceptable.
Lastly, even obfuscated home/away/distance/direction status information is private enough, that I very much prefer it be sent to my home, not to tado. Imagine someone hacking tado servers and getting address information, schedules and real time geolocation of everyone that lives there.
The privacy discussion is interesting, but perhaps it could be taken to a different thread as it seems be a side issue, since this thread is purely about the missing functionality.
I set tado up in my house 2 weeks ago. 11 TRVs, 2 room thermostats, 1 extension kit for hot water. I was quite shocked to find that I could not manually switch to Away mode.
I've seen a few threads about this missing functionality, and in each one someone tells people "you're doing it wrong, you don't need this functionality, just leave it down to tado to preheat for you". Clearly this is not sufficient - and no matter how much tado improve the Preheat Before Arrival function, 3 AI modes will never be sufficient to cover everybody's individual situations. I doubt it would even cover 90% of users' needs.
Here's my issue with it - myself and my partner (the only ones using the geofencing) often travel. Sometimes it will be the other side of the world, but sometimes we will be staying 5 miles down the road for a few days. In this situation, Preheat Before Arrival keeps the house very close to normal Home temperatures, even on the Eco setting.
Customising the sensitivity of the preheat distance will not work for me, because often I'm 5 miles down the road and I do want it to stay warm for when I return. There's no way the AI can ever tell the difference between these two without me providing some input to tado.
I understand that having a manual Home/Away switch will make the paid service less attractive, so why is this functionality not part of the paid service instead then? I can't understand it.
One of the reasons I chose tado over competitors is that I thought it had a young, agile software development team. But so far I've been very disappointed to find some very basic functionality missing.
Another vote for allowing manual control for following reasons:
1) Comfort mode does not work for hot water underfloor heating which takes a lot longer to warm up from a cool state
2) We often have guests in the house and its tedious to go through each room reseting the temp or the Smart program
3) THIS IS A SERIOUSLY EASY UPGRADE TO IMPLMENT - Come on guys JDI!
This is ridiculous, I can set status to "away" manually, but never set it back to "home" ? It is like a key that locks your home but does not allow you to unlock it again. This is not going to work for me, sorry Tado.
I am in the same boat. Confused as to why I can't set home or away or when I turn off geofencing that I lose the ability to set a schedule for my heating or have a global on off switch like even the cheapest house thermostat . I have left a review warning others on Google and Amazon hopefully this will prompt a resolution to this ridiculous problem .
Honestly I am so close to returning it all ....
Sorry hadnt seen this 'new idea'.. I've just posted another one regarding Manual Home and Away selection.
9 months later, the most popular thread and request by far, this trivial request isnt even acknowledged by tado. I would suggest everyone go give 1 star reviews on amazon and google play until tado solves this. If you do so, expect to get a response to your review inviting you to post your suggestion here. Oh the irony.
+1 for this suggestion.
Do tado respond to any requests? Do they care about the people they have already got a customers? Do I have to junk this system and buy myself a Nest or a Hive? Grrrrr.