The Big Idea Archive
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Hi there,
Is there a chance of adding a single tile that allows to heat all the rads instead of adjusting each one & the option to trickle heat all rads through that tile.0 -
Hi, this feature misses a lot on Tado. Please do allow a lock through the app or a security move to lock/unlock the TRVs themselves directly.
Do you imagine having half your TRVs reachable to a child who just will constantly bring the manual temperature to its maximum all the time ? It means that for all homes with a child, Tado is actually worse than keeping the old valves.
If you think that feature is useful, just create a new topic and let’s flood this forum until they finally implement the feature after a 4 years wait 😂0 -
There is already an active suggestion which you may want to add your vote to.
I doubt that flooding the forum with separate posts is going to achieve much.
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I'd like to be able to boost all radiators without having to go into each room tile and set them manually. I don't have Alexa or anything like that. I just want to do this from the Tado app. You can have the slider to choose how long the boost applies (specific duration or until the next scheduled change for each TRV)0
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Would be good to have the fan mode show up in the Apple Home app for the Smart AC product0
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Hi,
I’d like to see the ability to set the temperature on the radiator thermostat like I can on the main thermostat. For instance, I can select 23.5c on the main thermostat (my ideal home temperature) but on the tado radiator thermostats, it’s only rounded to the next whole number so you basically have 22c,23c,24c etc so this doesn’t then correspond to the main thermostat I’ve set at 23.5 so my heating keeps turning on and off on different radiators if I’m .5 off. For you to add this software update would be a great addition and easy to do I’m sure! 😀
Also, the ability for more info to be shown of which window was detected open within the ‘air comfort’ screen, as it advises one found open within the last so many minutes/hours etc but not which room or for how long. How much better would it be to have more info available to us where it could inform of what room windows it believes were open and at what times. I believe these 2 suggestions to be of good additional benefit to Tado Owners.
Many Thanks
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Our house has a traditional heating system with radiators and a "furnace" (CV in dutch).
I equipped al radiators with smart thermostats, and in the living room we have a Smart wall thermostat. This system works well.
We also have a Heat pump airco (HVAC system), which we can use for cooling in summer, and heating in the winter. I am thinking about buying the Taco AC airco controller, but I read it is not communicating in a smart way with the existing wall thermostat, and it just forms its own separate room.
I have a big solar array, so heating the living room with natural gas if not absolutely necessary, is not smart. Also, heating the living room in the morning is a fast way of heating the room and it saves a lot of gas.
In my opinion, it should be a fully integrated system, where an owner can set his heating preferences (gas vs electricity) based on either:
-Device priority
-Personal preference
-The price of the energy source
Bonus:
-Using only when solar array is generating energy for these countries without net metering (saldering in NL)? Using the Api of many Invertor vendors or data via local tcp modbus. I have a SolarEdge system with an energy monitor on top.
-etc etc
This seems like a nice challenge to develop the system further IMO.
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Hi @ceeceedee , you can access this functionality by visiting the website and clicking on the room. From there you can find ability to assign zones.
Its tricky to find but is there 🙂1 -
@Mooresy and @Karine - Thanks for the advice, I have finally managed to find it! I can't believe the number of discussions I have had with Tado Technical Support on this issue and they have never pointed me in the direction of their website. Attached (hopefully), for anyone else who struggles with this issue, is a screen snip of the website with the "Heating Zone" section highlighted.
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What does the independent option do?1
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It would be nice to see the individual room humidity readings without going into each individual tile / room.0
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Hi ahmedt
After reading this useful thread, I'm also wondering this about the Independent option. I have several SRTs and only one Thermostat. I'd like to separate some of the SRTs so they don't switch on the whole heating system when they call for heat, and I wonder if this is the way to do it?
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Hello @ahmedt and @Heleen_60,
My best guess would be that "independent" would only be an option in situations where you have no control over the boiler for a particular zone (i.e. it is assumed that hot water is available to that zone at all times).
If you have a Smart Thermostat which controls the boiler then the SRT needs to ask the Smart Thermostat to tell the boiler to supply hot water. For a radiator to heat it needs a supply of hot water and it needs the SRT to open to allow the hot water to flow through the radiator.
If you have several SRTs and one Smart Thermostat then it is possible to have individual control over the rooms/radiators with the SRTs fitted. However, you will not be able to have separate control over rooms where SRTs are not fitted. These rooms will receive hot water any time the Smart Thermostat requests hot water. So the non-SRT rooms will always receive hot water whenever the SRT rooms are being heated.
If you have a mixed system (i.e. some rooms with SRTs and some rooms without) then it is better to think of the SRTs as tools to stop heating rooms you don't want heated, rather than tools to heat rooms you do want heated
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Thank you ceeceedee. Yes I think I was misinterpreting the option, and reading (hoping) that the Independent option was also for the SRVs, but it's only for the thermostat :(.
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Hmmm So when i set the independent option this will rely on the smart themostat stats on the zone to all the heat and during that time it will regulate the temp? I guess the smart schedule will be avoid for that STRV or I totally misread.0
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Good suggestion. But only useful when Tado manages to make early start work adequately. It's been promised for years. Here it still doesn't work. Search for early start and you'll find more complaints.0
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@ahmedt I am pretty sure that smart schedule will still work on a room which is set to independent. The SRT in that zone will open and close as it tries to control the room temperature to the target set in the schedule.
However, the SRT will still need a supply of hot water from the boiler, but the fact that the room is set as independent means that Tado will not attempt to control the supply of hot water to that room. This is why I suggest that a room should be set as independent only if Tado has no control over the boiler which supplies hot water to that room.
If you have a Tado Smart Thermostat controlling your boiler then I dont think you would ever want to set an SRT to independent. The SRT should always be linked to the Smart Thermostat which controls the boiler.
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So, I'm trying to get my head around this. [And I now realise I was clicking on two different points thinking they were giving the same menus. The Room name/arrow leads to different options than clicking on the icon of the Device! ]
If I set the SRT to Independent; when its schedule or temperature calls for heat. if the boiler is already working for another Room, it will get heat. BUT, if it wanted heat, say in the middle of the night, it wouldn't get it as the boiler would be off (most likely). However this would stop the call for heat going to all radiators connected to the Thermostat without SRTs.
I don't think I've got my system set up to the optimum. I bought 4 new SRTs in the Black Friday sale but think I need more.........
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Hi @Heleen_60,
That sounds correct.
Until recently I did not have SRTs on all radiators and I configured my system like this:
The radiators that I wanted on most of the time (Kitchen/Dining room where there is most activity throughout the day) did not have SRTs fitted. These were controlled by the Smart Thermostat with its own schedule (on at 7am off at 10pm for example). The radiators in the Living Room (mostly only used in the evenings) were fitted with SRTs (which were linked to the Smart Thermostat) and were on their own schedule (on at 7pm off at 10pm). Thus for most of the day only the Kitchen/Dining room was being heated, but in the evening the Living Room would be heated as well.
I hope this helps.
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erm....no, I want the ability in the app, to do that myself of course, assuming they do not have my building floorplans lol
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I do not see battery levels of my tado° devices there currently, or am I missing something ?
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En https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/5369
en https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/3624/early-start-how-long-to-learn
En https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/2863/wth-early-start-at-4-20am
En https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/2028436?data%5Bfilter_keywords%5D=Vroege%20start
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Please update this feature. A 20 year old Honeywell could do the trick also.0
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Hi @GrayDav4276 ,
I want this to be avail in the app (that is what I would like Tado todo)
Then I wish to upload my PNG's (floorplans) per floor.
Then the app would allow me to separate rooms (square selections or freeform maybe ...).
Then those areas would be attached to already known rooms in the app, and it would be able to visualize the room with temperature, heating status, battery status maybe, stuff like that.
Maybe similar to Unifi's floor plans.
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Hi, I like many other people have struggled with the completely inaccurate temperature measurement of the smart TRVs, this causes the radiators to shut off before the room has warmed up, the Tado solution to use the offset feature doesn’t work for me, or I suspect anyone.
I have managed to get my smart TRVs to work as they should by using an Oventrop 1011450 adapter that rotates the smart TRVs by 90degs so they are horizontal, this adapter can be fitted to the existing valve without the need to do any plumbing like drain down the system. Rooms I have added the Oventrop adapter to now work perfectly, just as well as using a separate temperature sensor. I have attached a picture of the Oventrop adapter and one of my radiators with the adapter fitted.
The Oventrop adapters cost around £8-9 each (including delivery) if you order 4. The Oventrop adapters don’t appear to be available from UK plumbing merchants (none I tried anyway), but you can get them from ebay and amazon retailers who all appear to be in Germany. Therefore the delivery charges can be quite high, hence it’s best to order several at once to keep the cost down. I used an ebay seller called “ml-haustechnik” (I have no connection with them) who was the cheapest at the time and delivery about 4 days from Germany to UK (eBay item number: 331468588631), but there are other sellers you can choose from. Prices on amazon are higher, although many of the retailers seem the same.
The Oventrop 1011450 has a M30 x 1.5mm fitting at both ends, this is the same as the Tado TRVs so you won’t need to use any of the Tado adapters if the Tado TRVs fit on to your radiators. If you currently use an adapter, then you will still need to use the same adapter to fit the Oventrop adapter to the radiator, the Tado TRV will fit directly on to the Oventrop adapter. Oventrop do make another version of this adapter with different fitting, I think it is part number is 1011460, so just be careful you are ordering the right one.
I have not been able to find anyone else who makes anything similar in the M30 x 1.5mm fitting (Dandoss make some similar for their TRV connection type), so if anyone can find a cheaper alternative, please post-it.
I have vertical Tado TRVs fitted to all my radiators including the ones I have fitted the Oventrop adaptors to. The vertical TRVs work normally when positioned horizontally, the only difference is the display is read from the radiator end in the vertical TRVs which is slightly less convenient in the horizontal configuration.
I think the Oventrop adapters work because the Tado TRV temperature sensor is both further away from the radiator, and is facing away from it. Therefore, the “radiated” heat from the radiator doesn’t cause the Tado TRV to heat up and trick the sensor into thinking the room is hotter than it is. The Tado TRV can now measure the room air temperature through “conduction” heat transfer which is what it should be doing.
It is disappointing that Tado still haven’t recognised this problem or created a solution that actually works, but if you still want to persist with the Tado offering, then this approach worked for me and is cheaper than purchasing separate Tado sensors for each room.
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Great suggestion. Thanks0
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Thanks for posting this. Useful to know.
How do the adapters affect the noise that the TRVs make? Quieter? Noisier? Or no noticeable difference?
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Hi jcwacky, I only found these adapters because I was looking for an adapter that might deaden the sound transfer to the radiator. Unfortunately, they don't have any noticeable impact on the noise level from the TRV, but I can't tell if the adapter reduces the noise transfer to the rad. I am considering if I can create a sound proof box around the TRV, but sound proofing is tricky, any tiny gap or flaw will let most of the noise out!
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Amazing! Thanks so much for sharing - I've ordered 5. Also found them listed on Amazon UK as "Oventrop Angle Adaptor/Screw Connection M30 x 1.5 mm" without the model number for a reasonable £7.00 but with the catch of £16.32 international delivery. So I went with your eBay suggestion instead.
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